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« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2010, 02:33:23 AM »

I've just started using that Avast, Wil. Seems OK so far.

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« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2010, 05:30:28 AM »

  I have recently been moving to Microsoft Security Essentials.  I'm finding that it is much faster than AVG, free, handles both antivirus and spyware, and seems to use less memory.
  It's also more adept at removing deeply entrenched bugs.

--Cu & Sp


Same here. Very fast, free, simple (no annoying popups all the time) and got great reviews.
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« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2010, 06:32:32 AM »

Download Microsoft Security Essentials: http://www.microsoft.com/security_essentials/

Uninstall AVG, install Security Essentials.

 And as for AVG's "free trial," it's become a sucker's deal.  You can still get the free version, but they keep making it more and more difficult to get.

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« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2010, 10:14:37 AM »

Thanks guys - Ive gone with the slightly more popular response and giving MS Essentials a whirl...If i get infected I'll blame Copper and Catten :-)

Thanks for the info though - very kind.
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« Reply #19 on: July 22, 2010, 01:34:32 AM »

Hello...  I think Summers post is awesome.  We needed that info as not everyone knows.. and yesh Norton is a big pile of pants.  Lips Sealed

In the real world I actually run my own computer consultancy and I also used to work for the biggest British (now eaten by McAfee) antivirus firm, Dr Solomons.  So this is a pet subject of mine and I agree with Summers recommendations.

I use Avast myself, and other than having a cool piratey name and speaking to you when it updates (you can turn that off) it has yet to let me down and let anything in.

I can also recommend as my most favourite spyware cleaning tool, spyware is often the most common thing found on pc's that owners know nothing about till their computer is grinding along really slowly, is a tool called Malwarebytes Anti-Malware - and there is a free version that does a great job (althought the button is not obvious)  Go to this link to find the free version button easily half way down the page - use this...

http://www.malwarebytes.org/mbam.php

Always make sure you let it update to latest definitions before you scan (quick scan is often good enough)

It will often find things that spybot does not find, the two compliment each other to really clean your pc up.

And yes Ccleaner is another favourite tool of mine! does a great job of cleaning the old temp files out, but choose your settings carefully as it will clean all your password storing cookies too... so if you don't know all your passwords coz Firefox (you won't be using Internet Exploder because it is so rubbish) stores them for you.. take care!

Also if you haz got an infection, make sure you switch off your System Restore feature (can do this from Control Panel, System, System Restore tab - restart computer in safe mode, (press F8 a lot when computer on black screens as it boots, choose Safe Mode from the list it should bring up)  then run the scans, once your removed all the nasties, reboot your pc and switch the System Restore back on. - I always go to All programs, Accessories, System Restore, and Create a restore point - then you know you haz a clean system restore file.  Angel

PS... I'd avoid using Microsofts Security Essentials if I was you... seems nice and free but it really isn't up to much.  Its very basic, and doesn't stop a lot of the viruses, especially internet website based hacks.  Ive tried it on customers machines, and ended up removing it as stuff was still infecting the machines, and opted for Avast or AVG in its place.  so I recommend NOT USING IT!!!  Avast also features email based scanning, and will block webpages if they try to drop malicious programs onto your pc, Security Essentials just sits there and goes " oooh you're sooo safe..." when you're not.
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« Reply #20 on: July 22, 2010, 08:24:14 AM »

  I got away from Avast! after it missed a trojan (downloader) and the related virus that it pulled down, in a single day, both from the same website.  Same story with AVG.  Trojan slipped in, installed 10 different chunks of malware and viruses, and damaged the system beyond repair.  Spent 10 hours trying to get it back to a useable state, before I gave up and reinstalled windows.
  AVG also suffers from increasing bloat and questionable marketing tactics (3 of my customers called in less than a weeks time, asking why AVG was demanding payment to keep using it).
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« Reply #21 on: July 22, 2010, 09:08:59 AM »

I agree on AVG, at the end of the day they want you to buy the full version, so its just a means to an end.  I prefer Avast, and still do, in my line of work I look at hundreds of home pc computers and find Avast is the best free product. (but remember best FREE product)

If one trojan slips through, and they do even with products like McAfee or Sophos, they will sometimes deactivate the anti-virus anyway, thus rendering it useless, and a scanner is obviously only as good as the definitions it has.  New Viruses come out ever day, so the software people have to keep up with them as soon as someone lets them know about it.  I wouldn't write a product off immediately from a single instance.  As I say I used to work for Dr Solomons (now McAfee) and I lived just outside the "Virus Room" where the newly discovered viruses were pulled apart to see how they worked so a signature could be created to find it lurking in a computer.   At that time, 1998, I think our monthly update was for around a 1000 new viruses, now that's more like the daily level.

I know you know what you're on about Copper, so I won't suggest you don't, but the industry opinion is that Microsoft's product is a bit poo, its considered "better than no anti-virus at all" but by no means great.  Avast and the others are free, so again.... they want you to buy, so better bet in my current thinking is McAfee (remember they made me redundant so I have no loyalty) is the better product if we're talking top AV products, it does what its meant to, its backed by paid-for support that do proactively produce definitions for new viruses, and its not particularly processor intensive (any AV will use computer resources, and its better than a trashed pc from a virus attack)... Tried latest Kaspersky product and that so killed Secondlife that I got rid of it quickly and yes Nortons is only good at stopping Virus infections because you can't use your computer anymore once its installed.

All that said... I currently run Avast on four pc's in my household, and they have been trouble free, with the exception of my kids pc that my son downloaded a "free" game secretly (he knows my rules and free games are not allowed) so now he has to live with Bluecoats K9 free parental controls software... another handy free (truely is free) program... http://www1.k9webprotection.com - I also run a paid for version of AVG on my mail/web/opensim/shoutcast/jabber server! and that has so far been bug/hack free since it was installed.

I only say as I am just giving my opinion... so if it helps you decide how best to keep raglan residents PC's safe and keep them in raglan then that's all good.

Oooo on the subject of defragmenting your hard disk (puts all the data back together again in one nice lump instead of the poor hard disk reader head having to fly around finding each bit of a single file) my top tip is Defraggler http://www.piriform.com/defraggler/download because its nice and easy, quick, and sounds like it removes Fraggles from your computer.


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« Reply #22 on: July 28, 2010, 06:54:55 PM »

  But I LIKE fraggles!!  (I won't go into the pros and cons of defragging here.  Some interesting studies recently covered that, and it seems to come down to "What are you doing with your data, and what FS are you using?")

  On the AV topic, I may have to reexamine M$ Security Essentials now.  I do know that a recently installed game tried to forcibly install Norton on a machine I oversee (belongs to a friend, and he's pretty good about not installing everything that he sees).  McAfee has caused a LOT of headaches in the past, but not nearly as many as Norton.
  Have you used ClamAV on a live system?  I've used a LiveCD for recovering deep fried machines, but haven't played with the actual product at all.

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« Reply #23 on: July 29, 2010, 10:28:53 AM »

I use Microsoft Security Essentials 2 beta.  It actually blocks those web based attacks you refer to, is better at removing stuff it finds, and somehow runs even faster for me.  (Just released maybe a week ago?)


Defragging... bah I don't even know what that is (yay SSD)!

The only other maintenance tool I run is CCleaner.  It keeps my puter nice and fast, and the registry clean too.
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« Reply #24 on: July 29, 2010, 11:34:33 AM »

I use Microsoft Security Essentials 2 beta.  It actually blocks those web based attacks you refer to, is better at removing stuff it finds, and somehow runs even faster for me.  (Just released maybe a week ago?)


Defragging... bah I don't even know what that is (yay SSD)!

The only other maintenance tool I run is CCleaner.  It keeps my puter nice and fast, and the registry clean too.

is SSD spybot search and destroy? why i thinkin SSDD? hah same s**T different day. LOL
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« Reply #25 on: July 29, 2010, 01:29:07 PM »

I think Awor is refering to solid state disk by ssd.. its a chip based kind of hard disk with no moving parts... much better for mobile computing, not so good for pulling apart and turning into oooo pretty shiney cup coaster...

Perhaps Microsoft has improved its AV product... this subject is one hot tamale... but consensus is that Norton is a big pile of pooo to be avoided.. and yes I noted its being trying to sneak in all over the place lately.. you haz to be so careful installing things that you don't end up with yahoo toolbars, ask toolbars and nortons...

I'm going to post elsewhere that I might miss a lot of Raglan lately as my interwebs has become almost useless, my connection seems to work for 5 mins, then data stops, then starts again after a minute or two, then die after another 10 mins... and am moving house in a week so no point sorting this out ... booh hooooooooo gonna miss so much pirating! grrrrrrr
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« Reply #26 on: July 29, 2010, 04:25:26 PM »

Last Norton AV I used was 2009.

It was awesome, 3 licenses for $70 was the only downside (but I split that with my brother and dad so it was cheaper).

Since 2009 it is no longer a resource hog.
It stayed around 4-7mb of memory used when idle and never went over 12mb when scanning.
CPU usage stayed around 0-2% when idle and during scanning it never went over 15% usage.
Scanning times were pretty short, about the same time I'm getting with MSE.
Updates from what I remember came every day.

I can say I never had anything get by Norton when I used it... and I really put it to the test with all the bucaneered software i've acquired.
Only thing that made me not like it, some keygen tools would get false positive, it even found them inside zip files I tried to hide em in.

It wasn't near as annoying with warnings or popups as the older ones either.  But that's what I like about MSE so much, since it first came out I've had maybe 2 little warnings popup, which is wonderful.
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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2011, 04:33:12 PM »

I've got to agree with the French Canadian and say MSE is very good. Not a resource hog and reliable. I also use malwarebytes. Very good for dealing for, you guessed malware  Grin
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« Reply #28 on: February 10, 2012, 06:20:44 PM »

I too find MSE very useful. But not as useful as being weary about clicking on links
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« Reply #29 on: March 05, 2012, 12:30:00 PM »

TOP UPDATE... Nortons AV

It DOES  avoid viruses... but only because even now it is still crippling PC's so you can do anything with them... IMHO... mwahahaha avoid!!!    Lips Sealed
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